Here’s your latest issue of Influence Anyone—where you get a strategy each week to influence human behavior for good from Howie and the Behavioring Company team.

There are two types of people in every room.

The data sellers: they lead with numbers, proof, case studies. Rigorous and logical. Feels very convincing on paper.

The story sellers: they open with narrative, emotion, a scene. Engaging and human. Sometimes accused of being "light on substance."

This is actually not a this “versus” that debate. The question was never data or story. It’s something else. And once you understand the nuance, you'll start to see it in every great pitch, presentation, meeting, and conversation you've ever been in.

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The problem isn't your data. It's when you use it.

Most people — especially smart, data-driven ones — open with evidence to influence their audience. Statistics. Proof. Case studies. Case closed. On paper, this makes perfect sense. If the numbers are strong enough, the right decision should follow right?

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The problem is that's not how the brain actually works.

The brain doesn't decide first and feel second. It actually feels first.

What this means for you: if you lead with data before the brain has an emotional reason to care, the data doesn't register. Their brain is literally waiting for a signal that says this matters before it allocates any attention to your proof.

The entry point is always emotion.

The practical shift:

So before you present your evidence, give people something to feel. A brief story. A vivid scenario. A recognition moment. Something that sends the signal: pay attention, this is relevant to you.

Once that signal is active, your data will stick. The brain uses it to build a logical, defensible case around a decision that’s already made emotionally.

"You feel your way to a decision. Then you think your way to a justification."

It's how all of us think. The sooner you stop fighting it, the more effective you become.

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NEW EPISODE:

Episode 81 of the Influence Anyone podcast is the full breakdown — including the neuroscience behind why stories and data do such different things to the brain, and a four-step framework you can apply in your next sales call, presentation, board meeting, or one-on-one.

In the episode:

  • Why leading with data often works against you, even when the data is strong

  • What dopamine, oxytocin, and emotional arousal have to do with your next pitch

  • The four-part sequence and how to use it in any conversation

🎧 Listen/ Watch to the full episode on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, the web, or wherever you get your podcasts.

🔎 INFLUENCE DEEP DIVE

Data Selling vs. Story Selling: What's Actually Going On

Let's settle the debate.

Data sellers aren't wrong. Their evidence is real. Their numbers do matter. The problem isn't the data, it's the timing.

Story sellers aren't weak in substance. They're tapping into something the data sellers are skipping. The problem is that a story without evidence can feel thin, even when it's a great one.

The reason this debate never gets resolved is that both camps are defending a real thing. They're just missing what the brain actually needs… and when it needs it.

Imagine someone knocks on your door.

Before you can say a word, they start:

"X percent of forests are cleared every year. X cubic feet of oxygen lost. X species at risk. The science is clear. The numbers are alarming."

All true. Verified.

How do you feel?

For most people, the answer is: not much. You're politely waiting for them to finish. Your brain hasn't found a reason to care about the numbers yet, so it quietly files them under things that don't concern me right now and moves on.

Now the same person, same door, different opening:

"There was a boy who used to spend every afternoon in the forest behind his house. That's where he explored. Where he imagined. Where he felt free. But the forest was cut down. It became a strip mall. His world disappeared."

Something has changed, ever so slightly.

You're listening differently. You want to know what happened to the boy. You want to know what this means. And now if the same statistics come next, they land with weight it didn't have before.

The information didn't change. The facts are identical. What changed was the sequence.

What a story actually does to your brain

When you hear a story, your brain processes it in a special way…

Dopamine releases when there's curiosity or anticipation, keeping you engaged and making you want to know what comes next. Oxytocin activates when you feel empathy or connection, the chemical foundation of trust. And emotional arousal strengthens memory encoding, which is why you can recall stories from years ago while forgetting a statistic you read last week.

I vividly remember the documentary “My Octopus Teacher”, it’s about the growing intimate relationship between a filmmaker and an octopus as he follows her around for nearly a year. But I don’t remember any statistic or fact from that film.

More fundamentally: The research from Antonio Damasio (renown neuroscientist in USC) shows that emotion is not optional in decision-making. People whose brains couldn't generate emotional responses struggled to make even basic choices, despite having completely intact reasoning abilities. Without emotion, the brain has no way to assign importance. It can't decide what to act on, what to remember, or what to care about.

A story sends the signal.

This matters? Pay attention! Something relevant to you is happening here.

Without that signal, your data is just noise competing for attention it hasn't earned.

What data actually does

Now, data plays a completely different role and it's a crucial one.

Once the emotional signal is active, the brain shifts into analytical mode. The prefrontal cortex engages. You start evaluating, comparing, rationalizing. This is slower, more effortful work. And here's the key: it only kicks in after the brain has already decided the information is worth processing.

When data follows a story, it gives the brain something it's actively looking for: "If this is true, show me. Show me what the evidence says. Show me I can trust this feeling."

Data becomes the mechanism by which a feeling becomes a decision that someone can defend. It turns emotion into something logical, credible, and shareable.

Leading with data skips the feeling. The brain has no context for why any of it matters. So it does what it always does when something seems low-value: it moves on, politely.

The framework: Story → Insight → Data → Story

There are four steps:

1. Story

Open with a story. It doesn't need to be long. A brief scenario, a recognition moment, a vivid image. The goal is not about being entertaining. The goal is to create an emotional signal that primes the brain for what comes next.

2. Insight

Don't leave the story hanging. Tell them what it means. "Here's what most people get wrong." "Here's why this keeps happening." The brain has just felt something. Now it's trying to make sense of it. Give it direction. Give the feeling meaning before you move to evidence.

3. Data

Now your numbers have an audience. The brain is primed, curious, and looking for validation. Introduce your evidence here — your research, your case studies, your proof points only after you’ve triggered brain to receive.

4. Story — again

This is the step people skip. And it's the one that drives action.

Close with a return to story. Put the person into a future version of themselves where they've made the decision. Let them feel what's on the other side. People act on what they can feel themselves doing. The final story is an invitation to take that next step.

Where this shows up in your work

The consultant who opens a client meeting with "Here are our findings" — and watches eyes glaze over — needs a story first.

The founder who leads a pitch with the product demo and feature list, then wonders why investors aren't energized — needs a story first.

The expert who tells a great story, but doesn’t share specific case studies or data that shows social proof — needs to introduce pertinent data next.

Every time you want someone to understand something, believe something, or do something — the emotional signal has to come before the evidence.

Both story and data matters, the sequence is what’s important.

Closing Reflection

Data sellers are right that evidence matters. Story sellers are right that emotion matters. Neither side is wrong.

The only thing worth arguing about is sequence.

Story, then insight, then data, then story again. In that order, both camps win. Your evidence gets the attention it deserves. Your narrative gets the credibility it needs. And the person on the other side of the table gets something neither camp delivers alone: a reason to act.

Feel first. Justify second.

Go with how the brain works, not against it!

Alright, people of influence, I’ll see you next Sunday.

Change behavior, change lives 🤘🏽

Howie Chan

Creator of Influence Anyone

P.S. If this resonated, hit reply and tell me: where do you tend to lead with data when a story would work better? I read every reply.

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